RE: Subaru Outback | Shed of the Week
Discussion
honevo said:
Given the service history (cam belt and other issues addressed) this looks good value for the mileage.
We had a 2004 2.5 Legacy for family duties which was a great car , so much so that I replaced it with a 3.0 Outback similar to this.
I thought the 2.5 engine was lethargic and had a tendency to sound like an angry sewing machine when pushed (people say it sounds good but maybe I've been spoilt by the sound of the 2.0TS Alfa engine...)
The 3.0 is a revelation by comparison - very smooth and lots of torque - which better suits the character of the car.
Fuel consumption is horrendous though - less than 20mpg around town and less economical than our 4.0 Jaguar on a long run. VED is similarly frightening.
I don't know why I love it but I do but in an ideal world, I would go for the 2007 onwards facelift as it is a little less agricultural inside.
No one so far has remarked that the featured car is a manual - I didn't know that you could get a 2.5 manual in the UK - I've never seen one before
Yes, manuals were available for short time when this model was launched - mine was manual. I think they only last 12-18 months.We had a 2004 2.5 Legacy for family duties which was a great car , so much so that I replaced it with a 3.0 Outback similar to this.
I thought the 2.5 engine was lethargic and had a tendency to sound like an angry sewing machine when pushed (people say it sounds good but maybe I've been spoilt by the sound of the 2.0TS Alfa engine...)
The 3.0 is a revelation by comparison - very smooth and lots of torque - which better suits the character of the car.
Fuel consumption is horrendous though - less than 20mpg around town and less economical than our 4.0 Jaguar on a long run. VED is similarly frightening.
I don't know why I love it but I do but in an ideal world, I would go for the 2007 onwards facelift as it is a little less agricultural inside.
No one so far has remarked that the featured car is a manual - I didn't know that you could get a 2.5 manual in the UK - I've never seen one before
I would agree that the 2.5 sounded coarse when stretched. I think this was perhaps made worse by Subaru deciding to equalise the headers on this model which lost the famous offbeat boxer burble
Lotobear said:
honevo said:
Given the service history (cam belt and other issues addressed) this looks good value for the mileage.
We had a 2004 2.5 Legacy for family duties which was a great car , so much so that I replaced it with a 3.0 Outback similar to this.
I thought the 2.5 engine was lethargic and had a tendency to sound like an angry sewing machine when pushed (people say it sounds good but maybe I've been spoilt by the sound of the 2.0TS Alfa engine...)
The 3.0 is a revelation by comparison - very smooth and lots of torque - which better suits the character of the car.
Fuel consumption is horrendous though - less than 20mpg around town and less economical than our 4.0 Jaguar on a long run. VED is similarly frightening.
I don't know why I love it but I do but in an ideal world, I would go for the 2007 onwards facelift as it is a little less agricultural inside.
No one so far has remarked that the featured car is a manual - I didn't know that you could get a 2.5 manual in the UK - I've never seen one before
Yes, manuals were available for short time when this model was launched - mine was manual. I think they only last 12-18 months.We had a 2004 2.5 Legacy for family duties which was a great car , so much so that I replaced it with a 3.0 Outback similar to this.
I thought the 2.5 engine was lethargic and had a tendency to sound like an angry sewing machine when pushed (people say it sounds good but maybe I've been spoilt by the sound of the 2.0TS Alfa engine...)
The 3.0 is a revelation by comparison - very smooth and lots of torque - which better suits the character of the car.
Fuel consumption is horrendous though - less than 20mpg around town and less economical than our 4.0 Jaguar on a long run. VED is similarly frightening.
I don't know why I love it but I do but in an ideal world, I would go for the 2007 onwards facelift as it is a little less agricultural inside.
No one so far has remarked that the featured car is a manual - I didn't know that you could get a 2.5 manual in the UK - I've never seen one before
I would agree that the 2.5 sounded coarse when stretched. I think this was perhaps made worse by Subaru deciding to equalise the headers on this model which lost the famous offbeat boxer burble
If left to its own devices, the autobox would hunt up and down - only remedied by engaing the sport mode
Nice But Dim said:
Here is my recent purchase from EBay - but it’s the 3.0 H6 variant with many toys
It’s great !
It gets about 24mpg around town but on the motorway can get 35mpg
VED £415
Your mpg is impressive - our average is about 26mpg and that's after a weekend trip from the Wirral to Cardiff It’s great !
It gets about 24mpg around town but on the motorway can get 35mpg
VED £415
Edited by Nice But Dim on Friday 17th May 13:22
Edited by Nice But Dim on Friday 17th May 13:26
Ours is an '06 which has been serviced by the same Subaru dealer since new - my other half must drive it like a maniac when I'm not around ....
honevo said:
Lotobear said:
honevo said:
Given the service history (cam belt and other issues addressed) this looks good value for the mileage.
We had a 2004 2.5 Legacy for family duties which was a great car , so much so that I replaced it with a 3.0 Outback similar to this.
I thought the 2.5 engine was lethargic and had a tendency to sound like an angry sewing machine when pushed (people say it sounds good but maybe I've been spoilt by the sound of the 2.0TS Alfa engine...)
The 3.0 is a revelation by comparison - very smooth and lots of torque - which better suits the character of the car.
Fuel consumption is horrendous though - less than 20mpg around town and less economical than our 4.0 Jaguar on a long run. VED is similarly frightening.
I don't know why I love it but I do but in an ideal world, I would go for the 2007 onwards facelift as it is a little less agricultural inside.
No one so far has remarked that the featured car is a manual - I didn't know that you could get a 2.5 manual in the UK - I've never seen one before
Yes, manuals were available for short time when this model was launched - mine was manual. I think they only last 12-18 months.We had a 2004 2.5 Legacy for family duties which was a great car , so much so that I replaced it with a 3.0 Outback similar to this.
I thought the 2.5 engine was lethargic and had a tendency to sound like an angry sewing machine when pushed (people say it sounds good but maybe I've been spoilt by the sound of the 2.0TS Alfa engine...)
The 3.0 is a revelation by comparison - very smooth and lots of torque - which better suits the character of the car.
Fuel consumption is horrendous though - less than 20mpg around town and less economical than our 4.0 Jaguar on a long run. VED is similarly frightening.
I don't know why I love it but I do but in an ideal world, I would go for the 2007 onwards facelift as it is a little less agricultural inside.
No one so far has remarked that the featured car is a manual - I didn't know that you could get a 2.5 manual in the UK - I've never seen one before
I would agree that the 2.5 sounded coarse when stretched. I think this was perhaps made worse by Subaru deciding to equalise the headers on this model which lost the famous offbeat boxer burble
If left to its own devices, the autobox would hunt up and down - only remedied by engaing the sport mode
honevo said:
Nice But Dim said:
Here is my recent purchase from EBay - but it’s the 3.0 H6 variant with many toys
It’s great !
It gets about 24mpg around town but on the motorway can get 35mpg
VED £415
Your mpg is impressive - our average is about 26mpg and that's after a weekend trip from the Wirral to Cardiff It’s great !
It gets about 24mpg around town but on the motorway can get 35mpg
VED £415
Edited by Nice But Dim on Friday 17th May 13:22
Edited by Nice But Dim on Friday 17th May 13:26
Ours is an '06 which has been serviced by the same Subaru dealer since new - my other half must drive it like a maniac when I'm not around ....
Splendid. Yes, please.
But why are the Japs so crap at rustproofing?
Is it because all the budget gets spent on sturdy mechanical and electrical components – or is there another reason?
Meanwhile, PH homophobes look away now:
https://priceonomics.com/how-an-ad-campaign-made-l...
But why are the Japs so crap at rustproofing?
Is it because all the budget gets spent on sturdy mechanical and electrical components – or is there another reason?
Meanwhile, PH homophobes look away now:
https://priceonomics.com/how-an-ad-campaign-made-l...
I had a 96 p plate legacy estate, just a 2 litre n/a from memory and it was an utterly lovely old car. I'd bought it for peanuts to sell on and was captivated by its feeling of utilitarian toughness, its brilliant ride, spot on gear change and driving position and total useabikity. Sure footed, characterful, fun. Still don't understand why I've not had more subarus, my only other being an original Impreza RA and that turned into a nightmare!!....actually, maybe THATS why I've not had any more!
NGK210 said:
But why are the Japs so crap at rustproofing?
They're not. In general, Toyotas and Lexuses are perfectly fine. It's only the smaller manufacturers like Subaru, Suzuki and Mazda that turn out less rustproofed cars. And then only Japanese-built cars. European-built Suzukis are fine. My theory is that it's because Japanese roads are only gritted in winter. No salt is used. In addition to that, the Japanese MOT is extremely strict, making it uneconomical to run most cars long enough for them to rust.tr3a said:
NGK210 said:
But why are the Japs so crap at rustproofing?
They're not. In general, Toyotas and Lexuses are perfectly fine. It's only the smaller manufacturers like Subaru, Suzuki and Mazda that turn out less rustproofed cars. And then only Japanese-built cars. European-built Suzukis are fine. My theory is that it's because Japanese roads are only gritted in winter. No salt is used. In addition to that, the Japanese MOT is extremely strict, making it uneconomical to run most cars long enough for them to rust.”Toyota vehicles (excluding Hilux) are covered by a 12-year unlimited mileage warranty on the metal body panels, protecting against rust perforation caused by a manufacturing fault.”
Love the caveats, “body panels” and “caused by a manufacturing fault”.
Translation: Land Cruiser ladder frame chassis not included.
And if a Toyota is riddled with rust after only five years but the owner can’t prove it’s due to a “manufacturing fault”, then they’re fooked?
Cheeky wee shytes
Nice But Dim said:
NGK210 said:
Your motorway MPG, is that achieved when cruising at 60 or 70mph, or ‘on the continent at 128.75km/h’?
Ta
Cruise control at 70mph per GPS not speedo Ta
which reads nearly 80mph
Edited by Nice But Dim on Friday 17th May 16:10
NGK210 said:
tr3a said:
NGK210 said:
But why are the Japs so crap at rustproofing?
They're not. In general, Toyotas and Lexuses are perfectly fine. It's only the smaller manufacturers like Subaru, Suzuki and Mazda that turn out less rustproofed cars. And then only Japanese-built cars. European-built Suzukis are fine. My theory is that it's because Japanese roads are only gritted in winter. No salt is used. In addition to that, the Japanese MOT is extremely strict, making it uneconomical to run most cars long enough for them to rust.”Toyota vehicles (excluding Hilux) are covered by a 12-year unlimited mileage warranty on the metal body panels, protecting against rust perforation caused by a manufacturing fault.”
Love the caveats, “body panels” and “caused by a manufacturing fault”.
Translation: Land Cruiser ladder frame chassis not included.
And if a Toyota is riddled with rust after only five years but the owner can’t prove it’s due to a “manufacturing fault”, then they’re fooked?
Cheeky wee shytes
Hilux’s barely have any paint on them. You can almost rub the paint off the door shuts with your thumb. That’s why, when you go and look at one to buy, it has those eBay sill protectors on.
Sorry for the thread derail… Good shed, btw!
I had a 2.5 turbo version when I lived in the US, great car, sounded awesome with a fruity exhaust.
https://youtu.be/yX4jA1u23DA
https://youtu.be/yX4jA1u23DA
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