2024 London Mayoral Election Thread

[Cotty]

Randy Winkman said:

Metal stuff can just be left in the street like that anyway as someone will pick it up. No need to drive to the dump.

It happens often and its often not metal.

[rscott]

Cotty said:

Venisonpie said:

It's a very different approach to provincial living. This morning while still nursing a hangover in bed I ordered my weekly shop from Ocado Zoom, it arrived within an hour. I have an old oven and hob that need going to the dump, I ask the local council to collect it.
For DIY stuff the nearest B&Q is 2 miles away, I either walk or catch the bus, waltz round with my trolley. Pay, order an Uber, load his car up and it takes me home. You get the idea.
When I first moved here 20 years ago I used my car for everything because I still thought like a non Londoner. You quickly adjust and use everything that's available.

You have just demostrated that anything you need to do with a vehicle adds a cost. Ocardo deivery charge, my council charges £35 to collect something like an oven, you have to pay your uber driver etc.

Just curious what zone are you in.

Someone with a car on finance (which most newish cars seem to be) will be paying anything from £300 - £1,000 a month for the vehicle, plus tax, insurance and fuel. That can easily be more than using Uber, buses and the tube.

[Venisonpie]

Cotty said:

You have just demostrated that anything you need to do with a vehicle adds a cost. Ocardo deivery charge, my council charges £35 to collect something like an oven, you have to pay your uber driver etc.

Just curious what zone are you in.

You're right, there is a cost associated with the solutions mentioned. However, are they any more than those associated with using a car? The ocado del was £1.99 which is probably not disimilar to driving to a local supermarket if it was costed correctly. Same with the Uber.

The council collection is more of an issue at 41 quid for 5 items and £8.20 for each additional one. However most of the time its personal transport only which if you're walking (I generally do) is gratis or the tube which is cheap and capped per day across all TFL modes.

I live in zone 2 within a Ulez zone and run a 12 yr old V8. It's compliant.

[Cotty]

rscott said:

Someone with a car on finance (which most newish cars seem to be) will be paying anything from £300 - £1,000 a month for the vehicle, plus tax, insurance and fuel. That can easily be more than using Uber, buses and the tube.

Who mentioned finance or new cars. I purchased my car with cash and have owned it for 20 years, it used to cost a pittance to run, now it costs £12.50 to drive to the supermarket FFS

[p1stonhead]

Cotty said:

rscott said:

Someone with a car on finance (which most newish cars seem to be) will be paying anything from £300 - £1,000 a month for the vehicle, plus tax, insurance and fuel. That can easily be more than using Uber, buses and the tube.

Who mentioned finance or new cars. I purchased my car with cash and have owned it for 20 years, it used to cost a pittance to run, now it costs £12.50 to drive to the supermarket FFS

Costs a pittance to run and must pollute like no one’s business.

My 18 year old Mondeo 2.5l petrol is ULEZ compliant.

[robscot]

Cotty said:

Who mentioned finance or new cars. I purchased my car with cash and have owned it for 20 years, it used to cost a pittance to run, now it costs £12.50 to drive to the supermarket FFS

Coal fired?

[Cotty]

Venisonpie said:

I live in zone 2 within a Ulez zone and run a 12 yr old V8. It's compliant.

Zone 6 with no tubes. 32 yr old BMW straight six that will pass a cat test, but its not compliant .

[Cotty]

p1stonhead said:

Costs a pittance to run and must pollute like no one’s business.

Nope very little emissions, much less that the production of an EV and the production of the electricity to run it.

[p1stonhead]

Cotty said:

p1stonhead said:

Costs a pittance to run and must pollute like no one’s business.

Nope very little emissions, much less that the production of an EV and the production of the electricity to run it.

Well that’s a lie otherwise it would be compliant.

[Cotty]

p1stonhead said:

Well that’s a lie otherwise it would be compliant.

Test it and prove/disprove your point.

[p1stonhead]

Cotty said:

p1stonhead said:

Well that’s a lie otherwise it would be compliant.

Test it and prove/disprove your point.

Well what is it?

Presume you are fighting it’s misclasification?

[chemistry]

Nomme de Plum said:

He has won massively by greater than 250K votes.

A swing to Labour overall.

ULEZ clearly not a major impediment.

Shame. Not that I'd want Susan Hall either, but Khan really is an odious little puke of a man.

[s1962a]

chemistry said:

Shame. Not that I'd want Susan Hall either, but Khan really is an odious little puke of a man.

Can you give some reasons why that aren't based on emotion and feeling?

[p1stonhead]

Will be very interesting to see what Khan will/can get done when he (very likely) has a friendly Labour government alongside him. He’s only ever had an opposition one so far.

[CoolHands]

Venisonpie said:

CoolHands said:

Really? And how do you get about? How do you get your weekly shopping, or DIY materials, or a million other daily scenarios we all do day to day. I bet you drive

It's a very different approach to provincial living. This morning while still nursing a hangover in bed I ordered my weekly shop from Ocado Zoom, it arrived within an hour. I have an old oven and hob that need going to the dump, I ask the local council to collect it.
For DIY stuff the nearest B&Q is 2 miles away, I either walk or catch the bus, waltz round with my trolley. Pay, order an Uber, load his car up and it takes me home. You get the idea.
When I first moved here 20 years ago I used my car for everything because I still thought like a non Londoner. You quickly adjust and use everything that's available.

I live in London. I went to picadilly circus and back this very day on the tube.

On Monday morning I will be driving to work as normal as the alternative bus then tube then walk is very long winded, plus some days I pick someone else up and drop them too. Probably why personal transport aka cars is so popular. Hence why they can charge us through the nose for it, and khan will be ramping it up as soon as poss

Edited by CoolHands on Saturday 4th May 19:30

[NerveAgent]

Venisonpie said:

It's a very different approach to provincial living. This morning while still nursing a hangover in bed I ordered my weekly shop from Ocado Zoom, it arrived within an hour. I have an old oven and hob that need going to the dump, I ask the local council to collect it.
For DIY stuff the nearest B&Q is 2 miles away, I either walk or catch the bus, waltz round with my trolley. Pay, order an Uber, load his car up and it takes me home. You get the idea.
When I first moved here 20 years ago I used my car for everything because I still thought like a non Londoner. You quickly adjust and use everything that's available.

You know you can get food delivered, councils to take waste and a taxi to B&Q in not London

[Nomme de Plum]

chemistry said:

Nomme de Plum said:

He has won massively by greater than 250K votes.

A swing to Labour overall.

ULEZ clearly not a major impediment.

Shame. Not that I'd want Susan Hall either, but Khan really is an odious little puke of a man.

I do not do abuse. It is beliteling of the poster.

I have no particular allegiance but find such opinions of our politicians a reflections of inadequacies within the electorate.

[Countdown]

NerveAgent said:

Venisonpie said:

It's a very different approach to provincial living. This morning while still nursing a hangover in bed I ordered my weekly shop from Ocado Zoom, it arrived within an hour. I have an old oven and hob that need going to the dump, I ask the local council to collect it.
For DIY stuff the nearest B&Q is 2 miles away, I either walk or catch the bus, waltz round with my trolley. Pay, order an Uber, load his car up and it takes me home. You get the idea.
When I first moved here 20 years ago I used my car for everything because I still thought like a non Londoner. You quickly adjust and use everything that's available.

You know you can get food delivered, councils to take waste and a taxi to B&Q in not London

Regardless of whether your in London, Not in London, or somewhere in between IME people usually adapt. I take the car into work even though it costs me about £11 a day, my kids choose to go by bus which costs them £4 return. It's swings and roundabouts. I have the hassle of stop start driving, and parking half a mile away from my office, they have to deal with the sounds and smells from other passengers. Basically you find a way that works best for you.

[Killboy]

I live in central London and don't have a problem at all with DIY or any of this nonsense.

[Noesph]

s1962a said:

How many of you actually live in London or drive through it regularly? I do and I hardly see many non compliant vehicles around. I suspect ULEZ is a non issue for the vast majority of Londoners.

My parents live on the Sutton / Merton border, I'm actually surprised how many older cars are parked on the drives around there. I was wondering if some people just aren't paying it. My parents neighbours have a mk3 fiesta, a mk2 micra and a diesel mk2 megane. The neighbour after that has an old land cruiser, and an old 3 series estate, both 90's cars. There is mk1 Clio, a Peugeot 106 and Mazda bongo friendly on the other side of the road. None of them are compliant.

(I grew up around there, but left for Sussex. But I'm still up there at least twice a week).

Edited by Noesph on Saturday 4th May 19:57