Best throttle connection

[trickywoo]

What’s the best bike you’ve ridden for feel between the throttle and rear tyre.

I didn’t like the bike otherwise but for me it was the last of the 1050 speed triple, specially the RS.

It really felt like every mm of throttle was directed to the rear wheel.

I’ve had torquey bikes before and have a super duke now. The throttle connection is probably the most disappointing thing about it.

I remember it being a buzz term a few years ago and Yamaha were pushing it with their cross plane engine. Is the mt-10 good?

[robinh73]

I would agree with you on the Triumph Speed Triple as my 2017 R was pretty good. However, my 1996 Fireblade was just sublime. I personally don't think that you can beat a well sorted carburettor bike for feel and directness.

[podman]

Fact is its become harder with all the added emisions gubbins manufacturers have to fit in recent years, which is why many owners of newer bikes have them mapped.

BMW have mastered it best from my expierence of newer studf but pre emissions wise, I would have said any of my FI GSXRs inc my old SRAD 750.

[Killboy]

KTM 950 SMR after about 10 hours of Dyno time! Carburettors rule!

[OldGermanHeaps]

Honda cr500. The throttle response is telepathic, just think about twisting it and the front wheel is in the air and the back tyre is breaking grip at the same time, and the amount of vibration at the same time, the thing feels alive and ready to try to kill you in a heartbeat. Something everyone should experience at least once.
Definitely one to own again at some point but they are getting hard to find for sensible money.

[Donbot]

podman said:

Fact is its become harder with all the added emisions gubbins manufacturers have to fit in recent years, which is why many owners of newer bikes have them mapped.

BMW have mastered it best from my expierence of newer studf but pre emissions wise, I would have said any of my FI GSXRs inc my old SRAD 750.

Yep, my FI SRAD 750 was fantastic.

[airsafari87]

My old S1000R was fantastic after having a full system fitted and over 100 pulls on the dyno.

[TheInternet]

I'd be interested to hear thoughts on cable throttle Vs the by-wire ones. I didn't have a long enough test ride of a Street Twin to work out what it was making it feel like the throttle was connected with a rubber band, but thought that may be contributing. The cable throttle on my budget bike is much more immediate (warts and all?)

[OutInTheShed]

I'd guess any engine that richens the mixture for acceleration like the old 'Dellorto Pumpers' is going to fail emissions.

A vee or 90 degree engine with effectively a lighter flywheel can be more responsive.

A smaller engine where you're riding nearer the powerband can also feel nice.

[Ken_Code]

My 350 Powervalve was very good for this, but I think my relatively modern R1200GS is better. It’s very easy to hold it right on the limit on the way out of corners because of the mixture of throttle and feeling from the rear.

So much so that I prefer it with all the aids turned off much of the time.

[richhead]

my old carbed r1 is way better for this than my newish injected one, i know i could have it mapped, but why should i have to, i just take the old bike out instead, its a way better ride in every way, no tc etc, feels more like you are riding it, rather than it riding you, the new bike is many times faster, but in no way is it as much fun to ride.
que post about a hospital stay from me

[808 Estate]

Yamaha V-Max, or my old Suzuki GS1145

[spareparts]

Ducati 1098R (1198cc) with an Accossato Quick Action Throttle. 90 degree rotation from closed to WOT on a cable. You quickly learn that every mm rotation equals significant combustion of some very large vtwin throttle bodies with no electronic intervention. Direct as you can imagine, but sublime when ‘on it’ with zero hesitation or slack between your wrist and forward motion.

[Biker's Nemesis]

My YZF 750sp from the 1990's. I was young, wild and fearless, that bike felt great on the side of the tyres and the throttle was the main part of that for me.

[conkerman]

TRX850.

everything else has felt fluffy in comparison.

[wc98]

Donbot said:

podman said:

Fact is its become harder with all the added emisions gubbins manufacturers have to fit in recent years, which is why many owners of newer bikes have them mapped.

BMW have mastered it best from my expierence of newer studf but pre emissions wise, I would have said any of my FI GSXRs inc my old SRAD 750.

Yep, my FI SRAD 750 was fantastic.

My 96 WT carbed SRAD was the best i ever had, even better than the FI that followed and miles better than any subsequent FI bike i ever rode . Carbed R1's and R6's were pretty good as well. After years of FI bikes i reckon it would be a revelation to go back to a bike with well set up carbs. The worst was my K6 750 on the standard exhaust and a CBR600F sport i had a go on.

All bikes are better if you adjust the throttle cable properly so there is zero slack in it . Although if done after riding the bike for a long time be careful as the first time you brake to a halt you will be pushing the front as your hand subconsciously holds the throttle in the same position accounting for slack in the cable that is no longer there until you get used to it, although i expect most on here will already know that. A quick action throttle makes it even better.

Edited by wc98 on Tuesday 21st May 15:44

[Steve Bass]

First cross plane R1.

The bike was something I couldn't love but the engine, the sound and the "feel" of the throttle to rear tyre was awesome.
Second best was my RSV4.... definition of awesome