Cost to re-do a small bathroom?
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Had another chap out today via the local showroom.
Seemed to know his stuff but as I don't know mine I would almost certainly think that
Haven't seen the quote but seemed to think about five days.
I'll see what the quote looks like via the showroom but it's looking like Vileroy & Boch units and WC with Karndean flooring and then there's a question mark around the shower type and the tray and glass layout that's dependent on what the showroom design chaps think is possibly and practical with the space.
Suggestion seemed to be keep the shower walk-in but with a "flap" glass that can help deflect/keep water where you want it.
Also something about the type of boiler and water tank that sounded like Aqualisa might be simpler than Hansgrohe for the shower but I'm not religious about that.
Seemed to know his stuff but as I don't know mine I would almost certainly think that
Haven't seen the quote but seemed to think about five days.
I'll see what the quote looks like via the showroom but it's looking like Vileroy & Boch units and WC with Karndean flooring and then there's a question mark around the shower type and the tray and glass layout that's dependent on what the showroom design chaps think is possibly and practical with the space.
Suggestion seemed to be keep the shower walk-in but with a "flap" glass that can help deflect/keep water where you want it.
Also something about the type of boiler and water tank that sounded like Aqualisa might be simpler than Hansgrohe for the shower but I'm not religious about that.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Had another chap out today via the local showroom.
Seemed to know his stuff but as I don't know mine I would almost certainly think that
Haven't seen the quote but seemed to think about five days.
I'll see what the quote looks like via the showroom but it's looking like Vileroy & Boch units and WC with Karndean flooring and then there's a question mark around the shower type and the tray and glass layout that's dependent on what the showroom design chaps think is possibly and practical with the space.
Suggestion seemed to be keep the shower walk-in but with a "flap" glass that can help deflect/keep water where you want it.
Also something about the type of boiler and water tank that sounded like Aqualisa might be simpler than Hansgrohe for the shower but I'm not religious about that.
Would that be the actual hot water system itself? Seemed to know his stuff but as I don't know mine I would almost certainly think that
Haven't seen the quote but seemed to think about five days.
I'll see what the quote looks like via the showroom but it's looking like Vileroy & Boch units and WC with Karndean flooring and then there's a question mark around the shower type and the tray and glass layout that's dependent on what the showroom design chaps think is possibly and practical with the space.
Suggestion seemed to be keep the shower walk-in but with a "flap" glass that can help deflect/keep water where you want it.
Also something about the type of boiler and water tank that sounded like Aqualisa might be simpler than Hansgrohe for the shower but I'm not religious about that.
It sounds like you have a gravity fed system with a hot water tank, and the shower you wanted needs a combi boiler?
That's what we had and for cost and simplicity I put an electric shower in. Now 2 years on I'm looking at a combi boiler anyway which will mean doing quite a bit of the bathroom again. Fortunately doing it myself and not all that well it isn't too expensive or heart wrenching to do that in my situation. However, if you're at all likely to want to upgrade the heating and hot water in the foreseeable future it would be worth looking at getting that done before the bathroom for a far better end result.
JuanCarlosFandango said:
Would that be the actual hot water system itself?
It sounds like you have a gravity fed system with a hot water tank, and the shower you wanted needs a combi boiler?
That's what we had and for cost and simplicity I put an electric shower in. Now 2 years on I'm looking at a combi boiler anyway which will mean doing quite a bit of the bathroom again. Fortunately doing it myself and not all that well it isn't too expensive or heart wrenching to do that in my situation. However, if you're at all likely to want to upgrade the heating and hot water in the foreseeable future it would be worth looking at getting that done before the bathroom for a far better end result.
I'm still not 100% clear if I'm honest.It sounds like you have a gravity fed system with a hot water tank, and the shower you wanted needs a combi boiler?
That's what we had and for cost and simplicity I put an electric shower in. Now 2 years on I'm looking at a combi boiler anyway which will mean doing quite a bit of the bathroom again. Fortunately doing it myself and not all that well it isn't too expensive or heart wrenching to do that in my situation. However, if you're at all likely to want to upgrade the heating and hot water in the foreseeable future it would be worth looking at getting that done before the bathroom for a far better end result.
There's a condensing boiler downstairs (Flexicom HX) and a hot water cylinder in the airing cupboard on the first floor and a cold water tank in the loft.
The showroom suggested Hansgrohe and the first guy who came round said that's fine and a pump would be needed and that could go in the airing cupboard.
The guy today made it sound like replacing the existing Aqualisa with another Aqualisa would be simpler because of something to do with the pump but I didn't really understand why.
I'm not particularly religious about the brand I just want a decent shower.
Bathroom suite and tiles cost me 2.5k for our family bathroom - 2ish x 3sh metres for a fairly "luxury" finish.
Took me a few weeks doing it all myself - but I had to deal with a buckled floor as well as stripping back to the brick, water proof boarding, tanking for the shower area etc. luckily we had other bathrooms to use.
Master bedroom ensuite was about 1800 a year earlier.
The price people charge for bathrooms is crazy - it's not that hard, but good luck to them is what I say... There is one tile I look at and wish I'd done a slightly better job out of the dozens and dozens I put up between the 2 bathrooms because the grout line is every so slightly wider than the rest.
Anything I didn't know how to do I watched some YouTube videos. 3 and 4 years on, no leaks, no issues, looks as good as new.
Took me a few weeks doing it all myself - but I had to deal with a buckled floor as well as stripping back to the brick, water proof boarding, tanking for the shower area etc. luckily we had other bathrooms to use.
Master bedroom ensuite was about 1800 a year earlier.
The price people charge for bathrooms is crazy - it's not that hard, but good luck to them is what I say... There is one tile I look at and wish I'd done a slightly better job out of the dozens and dozens I put up between the 2 bathrooms because the grout line is every so slightly wider than the rest.
Anything I didn't know how to do I watched some YouTube videos. 3 and 4 years on, no leaks, no issues, looks as good as new.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I'm still not 100% clear if I'm honest.
There's a condensing boiler downstairs (Flexicom HX) and a hot water cylinder in the airing cupboard on the first floor and a cold water tank in the loft.
The showroom suggested Hansgrohe and the first guy who came round said that's fine and a pump would be needed and that could go in the airing cupboard.
The guy today made it sound like replacing the existing Aqualisa with another Aqualisa would be simpler because of something to do with the pump but I didn't really understand why.
I'm not particularly religious about the brand I just want a decent shower.
Worth considering a combi boiler. Depending on the state of the current one, how you use it and how long you're staying etc. There's a condensing boiler downstairs (Flexicom HX) and a hot water cylinder in the airing cupboard on the first floor and a cold water tank in the loft.
The showroom suggested Hansgrohe and the first guy who came round said that's fine and a pump would be needed and that could go in the airing cupboard.
The guy today made it sound like replacing the existing Aqualisa with another Aqualisa would be simpler because of something to do with the pump but I didn't really understand why.
I'm not particularly religious about the brand I just want a decent shower.
Slightly on a tangent
I have the usual bath, with shower on the wall and screen door. I have never taken a bath in all the years I've lived here. Thinking in general about renovating the bathroom sometime this year. And had sort of settled on no bath but a walk in shower instead
But a friend pointed out it might be seen as undesirable should I ever sell up. (Which is not likely to be for a number of years if at all)
Anyone got thoughts?
I have the usual bath, with shower on the wall and screen door. I have never taken a bath in all the years I've lived here. Thinking in general about renovating the bathroom sometime this year. And had sort of settled on no bath but a walk in shower instead
But a friend pointed out it might be seen as undesirable should I ever sell up. (Which is not likely to be for a number of years if at all)
Anyone got thoughts?
12 hours in, over 3 days, I removed the old tiles.
Then removed the trashed plasterboard back to bare blocks!
Ordered & lined the whole room with tile backing boards (stuck & screwed). Shopped around, 33% cheaper online, deliver next day.
The old tiles etc all in 2x 1m2 bags on the drive.
Drip fed half of the plasterboard into council dump plasterboard skip.
I’ll get a mini skip at the end.
Quite enjoying it now, as rebuilding has started.
Bathroom still functional.
Spent 4 hours today trawling tile/barhroom/bathroom board stores, to choose, with the better half.
She wants panelling on the bottom half (MRMDF)
‘Wood’ in bathroom is a no no to me.
Hopefully i’ll win..
Then removed the trashed plasterboard back to bare blocks!
Ordered & lined the whole room with tile backing boards (stuck & screwed). Shopped around, 33% cheaper online, deliver next day.
The old tiles etc all in 2x 1m2 bags on the drive.
Drip fed half of the plasterboard into council dump plasterboard skip.
I’ll get a mini skip at the end.
Quite enjoying it now, as rebuilding has started.
Bathroom still functional.
Spent 4 hours today trawling tile/barhroom/bathroom board stores, to choose, with the better half.
She wants panelling on the bottom half (MRMDF)
‘Wood’ in bathroom is a no no to me.
Hopefully i’ll win..
Edited by James6112 on Saturday 4th May 23:27
sherman said:
We just got this done.
Full refurb. Full strip out and rebuild.
It took 4 weeks of Monday-Fridays
Tiling alone was 10 days.
We had plumbers, joiners,tilers,sparky and painter all involved.
We got the one company to provide everything and project manage everything.
Hansgrohe taps, Crosswater shower and bath fittings., electric underfloor heating, heated LED mirror.
25 ish square meters of porcelain tiles.
Price was £18000 though.
£18K?Full refurb. Full strip out and rebuild.
It took 4 weeks of Monday-Fridays
Tiling alone was 10 days.
We had plumbers, joiners,tilers,sparky and painter all involved.
We got the one company to provide everything and project manage everything.
Hansgrohe taps, Crosswater shower and bath fittings., electric underfloor heating, heated LED mirror.
25 ish square meters of porcelain tiles.
Price was £18000 though.
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king hell. Where do you live? Monaco?It's a standard bathroom. Personally I would have got rid of the windowcill and moved the extractor fan to the ceiling.
With half decent fittings, including the tiles, bank on £3K for materials. Labour £3.5K. That's fully tiled but no underfloor heating.
If having a pump fitted then ask them how long it will take to empty your hot water tank..... Go Combi boiler or Megaflow system. That will add £1.5K to £3K.
South East prices
If having a pump fitted then ask them how long it will take to empty your hot water tank..... Go Combi boiler or Megaflow system. That will add £1.5K to £3K.
South East prices
BunkMoreland said:
Slightly on a tangent
I have the usual bath, with shower on the wall and screen door. I have never taken a bath in all the years I've lived here. Thinking in general about renovating the bathroom sometime this year. And had sort of settled on no bath but a walk in shower instead
But a friend pointed out it might be seen as undesirable should I ever sell up. (Which is not likely to be for a number of years if at all)
Anyone got thoughts?
Exactly what I’m doing for my daughter’s bathroom in her flat. Combined bath/showers are a pain to get in/out of, the slope of the bath prevents you from getting right under the head. When was the last time you had a bath? Why would you compromise having a suboptimal shower experience every day for the rare (never) occasion you have a bath?I have the usual bath, with shower on the wall and screen door. I have never taken a bath in all the years I've lived here. Thinking in general about renovating the bathroom sometime this year. And had sort of settled on no bath but a walk in shower instead
But a friend pointed out it might be seen as undesirable should I ever sell up. (Which is not likely to be for a number of years if at all)
Anyone got thoughts?
It lets you have a really nice sized shower, say 1200 x 900, and people can see it could be replaced with a bath if that’s what they really wanted. It might reduce the market a bit (for eg families with young children), equally a really nice shower room might be more appealing to the young professional market.
Anyway, do your house for you, not for the next person.
James6112 said:
She wants panelling on the bottom half (MRMDF)
‘Wood’ in bathroom is a no no to me.
Hopefully i’ll win..
I’ve got numerous bathrooms with MRMDF (and softwood profiles) that have been in for over 15 years and used every day and still look good…‘Wood’ in bathroom is a no no to me.
Hopefully i’ll win..
Though I did decorate the heck out of them and none of the bathrooms have any condensation issues.
Little Lofty said:
I think I should put up my prices
These bathrooms for my flips cost me around £1500 for the fittings and tiles, I do most of the fitting/tiling myself. I’m a joiner and can tile a bathroom in 2/3 days
Stuff like the above may be OK for rental or a cheap flip but not for someones forever home.These bathrooms for my flips cost me around £1500 for the fittings and tiles, I do most of the fitting/tiling myself. I’m a joiner and can tile a bathroom in 2/3 days
Im aware this comment may sound a bit "nobbish" you may be a carpenter who can fix tiles to a wall but you are not a tiler. Even from the couple of pictures the gaps and tile slithers beside the windows and walls look terrible. If you fitted that to my house I would refuse to pay and you could gladly take it all away again.
Sorry to sound harsh and its shows what can be done with a limited budget and hard work but there are such variations of costs on fittings and such that its easy to see why we see some people says its 3k and other 16k.
Average family bathroom for me would be 7-8k with labour all in.
BunkMoreland said:
Slightly on a tangent
I have the usual bath, with shower on the wall and screen door. I have never taken a bath in all the years I've lived here. Thinking in general about renovating the bathroom sometime this year. And had sort of settled on no bath but a walk in shower instead
But a friend pointed out it might be seen as undesirable should I ever sell up. (Which is not likely to be for a number of years if at all)
Anyone got thoughts?
Depends how long you’ll be there. I have the usual bath, with shower on the wall and screen door. I have never taken a bath in all the years I've lived here. Thinking in general about renovating the bathroom sometime this year. And had sort of settled on no bath but a walk in shower instead
But a friend pointed out it might be seen as undesirable should I ever sell up. (Which is not likely to be for a number of years if at all)
Anyone got thoughts?
Baths are a must for young families. And the women-folk in general do love a soak in a bath. So I dare say it’ll impact resale do a degree if it’s that sort of house.
Personally I put the lifespan of a bathroom at 10 years anyways. But then I’m happy to rip out and DIY a white tile jobbie for £3-4k max, just not fussed with £15k+ bathrooms. I’ve never had one so live in blissful ignorance about them I guess.
Getting there slowly.
Question on radiators.
Multiple suggestions of stainless steel for the radiator as apparently it shouldn't mark or "pit" like cheap chrome ones do?
I quite like the matt/painted look radiators but that's just aesthetics and I'm obviously not an expert on practicality and longevity.
Question on radiators.
Multiple suggestions of stainless steel for the radiator as apparently it shouldn't mark or "pit" like cheap chrome ones do?
I quite like the matt/painted look radiators but that's just aesthetics and I'm obviously not an expert on practicality and longevity.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Getting there slowly.
Question on radiators.
Multiple suggestions of stainless steel for the radiator as apparently it shouldn't mark or "pit" like cheap chrome ones do?
I quite like the matt/painted look radiators but that's just aesthetics and I'm obviously not an expert on practicality and longevity.
We have a matt black radiator. It goes nicely with the rest of the tiling. Chrome pipework and trv. Question on radiators.
Multiple suggestions of stainless steel for the radiator as apparently it shouldn't mark or "pit" like cheap chrome ones do?
I quite like the matt/painted look radiators but that's just aesthetics and I'm obviously not an expert on practicality and longevity.
Its got a rough texture finish to it.
https://www.eastbrooktrade.com/en-gb/heating/heati...multirail-range/heating__multirail-range__wingrave/wingrave-1200-x-500-straight-multirail-matt-black-89_0603?returnurl=%2fen-gb%2fheating%2fheating__multirail-range%2fheating__multirail-rangewingrave%2fcolour%3dmatt%2520black%2f%3fcount%3d24
We refitted our bathrooms just over 2 years ago but supplied the sanitary-ware and tiles and they did the rest. Both bathrooms had no bath as part of the refit and were fully tiled on the walls (not big bathrooms) & we had shower cubicles rather than a wet room. The cost was £9.5k for each one and included in the one a built in under eaves cupboard but it had less tiling as a result.
Gigamoons said:
Depends how long you’ll be there.
Baths are a must for young families. And the women-folk in general do love a soak in a bath. So I dare say it’ll impact resale do a degree if it’s that sort of house.
2 bed flat so probably not the target for young families. And my dating exploits are suitably lacklustre that I doubt any ladies will be staying over! Baths are a must for young families. And the women-folk in general do love a soak in a bath. So I dare say it’ll impact resale do a degree if it’s that sort of house.
Gigamoons said:
Personally I put the lifespan of a bathroom at 10 years anyways. But then I’m happy to rip out and DIY a white tile jobbie for £3-4k max, just not fussed with £15k+ bathrooms. I’ve never had one so live in blissful ignorance about them I guess.
Some of the quotes here are scary! In my head (and clearly out of touch) I thought a small-ish kitchen is £10K, so a complete bathroom "should" be less. Evidently not!I "probably" could do a decent job of a bathroom refit. Though I've never done an entire bathroom obviously. But at the same time, I've known a guy for nearly 30 years who runs his own bathroom company. So maybe with a little "mates discount" it would be better to let him and his team bash it out in a couple weeks professionally
PhilboSE said:
James6112 said:
She wants panelling on the bottom half (MRMDF)
‘Wood’ in bathroom is a no no to me.
Hopefully i’ll win..
I’ve got numerous bathrooms with MRMDF (and softwood profiles) that have been in for over 15 years and used every day and still look good…‘Wood’ in bathroom is a no no to me.
Hopefully i’ll win..
Though I did decorate the heck out of them and none of the bathrooms have any condensation issues.
Tiles ordered yesterday, at vast cost.
1200x600 porcelain, how hard can it be?!
I did cloakroom last year, always done DIY.
A few spares ordered…
The room is a tad over 2.4m long, planning to get away with any cuts on those lengths.
I went back to the breeze blocks as the walls were trashed. Tile backers glued & screwed to them
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