Blast from the past - remind us of a thing
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djcube said:
All this talk of drawing offices brings back memories of many happy hours sat/stood in front of an A0 draughting board/machine.
With the demise of manual draughting it was said that we wouldn't see those works of art that a good draughtsman could create. I think this was generally held as a truth at the time, 1980's, but gradually style began to become noticeable with CADD. CADD style is definitely a thing, some can create a superb drawing, something that is a joy to look at. Others create scruffy drawings that are not.
I'm ignoring the subject of the drawing, I've seem some absolute howlers beautifully drawn and superb design drawn so badly there was a real problem persuading the decision makers it was worth going with.
The whole idea of an engineering drawing seems to becoming a thing of the past with 3D modelling. That last project I was involved in produced no drawings other than a few schemes and general arrangements so we could stand around a table and scribble ideas and corrections on them. Once that was done everything was a computer file.
This original pencil and colour wash hangs on my office wall - from the days when architectural drawing really was an art for it's own sake (this was done in 1931)With the demise of manual draughting it was said that we wouldn't see those works of art that a good draughtsman could create. I think this was generally held as a truth at the time, 1980's, but gradually style began to become noticeable with CADD. CADD style is definitely a thing, some can create a superb drawing, something that is a joy to look at. Others create scruffy drawings that are not.
I'm ignoring the subject of the drawing, I've seem some absolute howlers beautifully drawn and superb design drawn so badly there was a real problem persuading the decision makers it was worth going with.
The whole idea of an engineering drawing seems to becoming a thing of the past with 3D modelling. That last project I was involved in produced no drawings other than a few schemes and general arrangements so we could stand around a table and scribble ideas and corrections on them. Once that was done everything was a computer file.
psi310398 said:
Famously getting pissed on cider - really suitable for a junior audience! 
Every week I watched avidly, waiting for the windmill sail to hit him. One episode of The Clangers was edited after the BBC said the word bloody in the script wasn't acceptable, even though it would be whistled.
cuprabob said:
Gordon Hill said:
Watch with mother, remember that? Pogles wood, Trumpton/Chigley/Camberwick Green, tales of the river bank. I can still remember pre school sat watching these even though it was almost 6 decades ago.
Add Mary, Mungo & Midge to that list.Trumpton
Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble & Grub.
Oh and Windy Miller in Camberwick Green.
Edited by cuprabob on Friday 3rd May 18:56
Edited by cuprabob on Friday 3rd May 18:56
40 years later and we are still doing this with the our nieces and nephews only its now £1 coins
Lotobear said:
Super Sonic said:
Lotobear said:
...and practiced the ancient technique of 'sciography' (look it up!).
The Scifi channel documentary on science fiction series?Gordon Hill said:
Watch with mother, remember that? Pogles wood, Trumpton/Chigley/Camberwick Green, tales of the river bank. I can still remember pre school sat watching these even though it was almost 6 decades ago.
Err, Watch with Mother was (Monday to Friday inclusive): Picturebook; Andy Pandy; The Flowerpot Men; Rag,Tag & Bobtail ; The Woodentops!You youngster, you!
Cliftonite said:
Err, Watch with Mother was (Monday to Friday inclusive): Picturebook; Andy Pandy; The Flowerpot Men; Rag,Tag & Bobtail ; The Woodentops!
You youngster, you!
The burning question even after all these years...........You youngster, you!
What did Andy Pandy and Luby Lou get up to in that crate.
Bill and Ben the Flowerpot men????
Remember that sitting in front of a TV with an 8" b/w screen mounted in a huge carpentry box with a huge speaker covered in cloth... eating the special...... toast with golden syrup..... one of the few treats at the grandparents, early 50s.....
Remember that sitting in front of a TV with an 8" b/w screen mounted in a huge carpentry box with a huge speaker covered in cloth... eating the special...... toast with golden syrup..... one of the few treats at the grandparents, early 50s.....
Edited by JMGS4 on Saturday 4th May 08:29
Cliftonite said:
Gordon Hill said:
Watch with mother, remember that? Pogles wood, Trumpton/Chigley/Camberwick Green, tales of the river bank. I can still remember pre school sat watching these even though it was almost 6 decades ago.
Err, Watch with Mother was (Monday to Friday inclusive): Picturebook; Andy Pandy; The Flowerpot Men; Rag,Tag & Bobtail ; The Woodentops!You youngster, you!
One of the bands I soundmanned at University was called the Spotty Dogs. Yes they came on stage in that imperfectly realised puppet style walk. The guitarist played a mean Tales of the Riverbank theme too. Sounds a bit different through a Marshall stack
Still a great theme though
Anybody remember ‘French arrows’? (that’s what we called them):
Get a 12 to 18” piece of bamboo
Sharpen one end
Fix two playing cards to the opposite end (criss crossed)
Get a piece of chord/shoe lace and wrap it once around the card end and hold the chord taught while holding the sharp end.
Then overhand throw like throwing a javelin – only it flew many times further than a ten year old could throw a javelin – up to 100m!
We ‘played’ this for hours at the local park next to the swings and path (I regularly drive past the spot).
Unbelievable now that no adult ever stopped us – Half a dozen mates launching at the same time with arrows going astray – any one of which could easily have killed/wounded.
Get a 12 to 18” piece of bamboo
Sharpen one end
Fix two playing cards to the opposite end (criss crossed)
Get a piece of chord/shoe lace and wrap it once around the card end and hold the chord taught while holding the sharp end.
Then overhand throw like throwing a javelin – only it flew many times further than a ten year old could throw a javelin – up to 100m!
We ‘played’ this for hours at the local park next to the swings and path (I regularly drive past the spot).
Unbelievable now that no adult ever stopped us – Half a dozen mates launching at the same time with arrows going astray – any one of which could easily have killed/wounded.
andyxxx said:
Anybody remember ‘French arrows’? (that’s what we called them):
Get a 12 to 18” piece of bamboo
Sharpen one end
Fix two playing cards to the opposite end (criss crossed)
Get a piece of chord/shoe lace and wrap it once around the card end and hold the chord taught while holding the sharp end.
Then overhand throw like throwing a javelin – only it flew many times further than a ten year old could throw a javelin – up to 100m!
We ‘played’ this for hours at the local park next to the swings and path (I regularly drive past the spot).
Unbelievable now that no adult ever stopped us – Half a dozen mates launching at the same time with arrows going astray – any one of which could easily have killed/wounded.
Good grief. Get a 12 to 18” piece of bamboo
Sharpen one end
Fix two playing cards to the opposite end (criss crossed)
Get a piece of chord/shoe lace and wrap it once around the card end and hold the chord taught while holding the sharp end.
Then overhand throw like throwing a javelin – only it flew many times further than a ten year old could throw a javelin – up to 100m!
We ‘played’ this for hours at the local park next to the swings and path (I regularly drive past the spot).
Unbelievable now that no adult ever stopped us – Half a dozen mates launching at the same time with arrows going astray – any one of which could easily have killed/wounded.
How did the French lose so badly at Agincourt?
andyxxx said:
Anybody remember ‘French arrows’? (that’s what we called them):
Get a 12 to 18” piece of bamboo
Sharpen one end
Fix two playing cards to the opposite end (criss crossed)
Get a piece of chord/shoe lace and wrap it once around the card end and hold the chord taught while holding the sharp end.
Then overhand throw like throwing a javelin – only it flew many times further than a ten year old could throw a javelin – up to 100m!
We ‘played’ this for hours at the local park next to the swings and path (I regularly drive past the spot).
Unbelievable now that no adult ever stopped us – Half a dozen mates launching at the same time with arrows going astray – any one of which could easily have killed/wounded.
"Oi! You'll have somebody's eye out with that!"Get a 12 to 18” piece of bamboo
Sharpen one end
Fix two playing cards to the opposite end (criss crossed)
Get a piece of chord/shoe lace and wrap it once around the card end and hold the chord taught while holding the sharp end.
Then overhand throw like throwing a javelin – only it flew many times further than a ten year old could throw a javelin – up to 100m!
We ‘played’ this for hours at the local park next to the swings and path (I regularly drive past the spot).
Unbelievable now that no adult ever stopped us – Half a dozen mates launching at the same time with arrows going astray – any one of which could easily have killed/wounded.
generationx said:
Om said:
DickyC said:
Abbott said:
In the mid 80s my boss spoke to me about the emergence of CAD. "Computers," he said, "they're expensive, they don't work well, no one likes them, but they're coming anyway." And he was absolutely right. In the late seventies I abandoned the drawing board for modelmaking and worked on - usually - 1:33 models of refineries and offshore platforms. By the late eighties they were finished, as computers took over the clash checking role of the model. To me, a drawing office full of drawing boards looked better than a room full of CAD workstations.It wasn’t long before I moved to a CAD machine - this was the late eighties.
Ford were early adopters and some of our tech was already quite old (our database was in a climate-controlled room in the middle of the office). I started out on a mixture of Ford’s own system, PDGS with a light pen on the screen, then mostly CADDS5 with a more traditional mouse arrangement, before moving on and have since experienced several systems.
Producing a drawing on paper was definitely an art-form and certainly you can tell CAD drawings produced by those who started on paper in my experience.
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