RE: MG 6 | Shed of the Week

RE: MG 6 | Shed of the Week

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Mr Tidy

22,545 posts

128 months

Friday 3rd May
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2xChevrons said:
donkmeister said:
Mr Tidy said:
I had to laugh at the reference to the Rover P6! When my P6B was 7 years old the top mount for the De Dion rear axle pulled out of the passenger side inner wing. Before I got it fixed I had a look at the other side, and sure enough it had already been repaired. If that was Rover's finest effort no wonder the company went the way it did! It was rustier than the 9 year old Fiat it replaced. laugh
The P6 was the pinnacle of Rover's engineering/design prowess. Almost Citroen levels of innovation, bold thinking and clever thoughts. But the P6 was a far more mass-market car than they were used to and they always struggled to build it to decent standards. Rover took on loads of new workers to expand capacity to build the P6. These workers were not the years-served diehards who were part of the 'Rover family firm' of the old days and a lot of them came from other Birmingham firms where they had either been laid off or forced out as troublemakers - neither made them predisposed to harmonious relations or effective work. The build and material quality on the P6 started off pretty poor, reached a just-about-decent standard in the late 1960s/very early 70s then entered a nosedive to become some of the worst of the worst as BLMC and the industry as a whole went from crisis to crisis.

In terms of quality the peak for Rover was late P4/early P5, when they were truly exceptionally well-turned-out cars. Even the P5 suffered towards its end, partly because of labour relations and problems at the suppliers but also because Rover refused to renew the tooling. If you have a good eye you can 'date' a P5 by how much metal is between the trailing edge of the badge on the front wing and the door shut; it gradually grew as production went on because the tooling wore so the panel 'spread'.
Thanks, that's quite an insight. thumbup

Mine was an early 1973 model so into the nosedive period! Although I'm not sure the rust was the result of relatively unskilled workers, more likely design issues. But to be fair most 70s cars rusted for fun!

Despite that I still have some fond memories of my 3500S as it's the only V8 I've ever owned, and a manual V8 felt pretty special to me when I was 20. biggrin

I was sorely tempted to get an MG ZT260 in early 2005 when a local dealer was selling them for £17,995 IIRC, but it didn't make much sense at the time as I was doing business mileage and HMRC mileage rates were miserly. frown



Eazy71

161 posts

57 months

Saturday 4th May
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Loathsome.

MadDog1962

892 posts

163 months

Saturday 4th May
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Bill said:
One for the cars you've never heard of thread, but I reckon a cracking buy for a new driver*. I bet it was only bought by the thrifty, older gentleman so won't register on the insurers threat radar.



*Assuming they couldn't give two sts about image...
If you're buying a shed you shouldn't worry too much about image. If it's got 12 months MoT and stands a decent chance of running reliably for at least 12 months with minimal maintenance expenditure then arguably it passes the test as long as it's safe, comfortable and reasonably economical. Who really gives a damn about impressing anybody else?

Of course, if it has a bit of cool factor then it's admittedly a bonus!

7 5 7

3,210 posts

112 months

Saturday 4th May
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Better petrol N/A sheds about in this budget which many have said, Mondeo, Insignia - to name a couple.

But, I think people are forgetting this is a cheap A-B car, that ticks the transport box only, that is it for me, nothing else matters, so hits the brief for many.

You are buying a car cheaper than the basic deposit on a lease deal, who cares what it looks like, it's not a fashion statement - I would personally stick to the other marques i mentioned above just on ease of spares if needed, but this isn't bad.


Alx27

39 posts

62 months

Saturday 4th May
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To be fair, I was fully expecting to spot one of the buttons or dials the Montego / Metro / 90s RoverMGs all shared and spotted nothing.

cerb4.5lee

30,899 posts

181 months

Saturday 4th May
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7 5 7 said:
Better petrol N/A sheds about in this budget which many have said, Mondeo, Insignia - to name a couple.

But, I think people are forgetting this is a cheap A-B car, that ticks the transport box only, that is it for me, nothing else matters, so hits the brief for many.

You are buying a car cheaper than the basic deposit on a lease deal, who cares what it looks like, it's not a fashion statement - I would personally stick to the other marques i mentioned above just on ease of spares if needed, but this isn't bad.
I see Teslas as a modern day version of this in many ways as well. They aren't a fashion statement either, and folk go for them because they are a cheap(ish) way to get from A to B I reckon. The epitome of a transport box for me, plus the interior in a Tesla is about as plush as a cardboard box as well in fairness! hehe

Gordon Hill

889 posts

16 months

Saturday 4th May
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cerb4.5lee said:
7 5 7 said:
Better petrol N/A sheds about in this budget which many have said, Mondeo, Insignia - to name a couple.

But, I think people are forgetting this is a cheap A-B car, that ticks the transport box only, that is it for me, nothing else matters, so hits the brief for many.

You are buying a car cheaper than the basic deposit on a lease deal, who cares what it looks like, it's not a fashion statement - I would personally stick to the other marques i mentioned above just on ease of spares if needed, but this isn't bad.
I see Teslas as a modern day version of this in many ways as well. They aren't a fashion statement either, and folk go for them because they are a cheap(ish) way to get from A to B I reckon. The epitome of a transport box for me, plus the interior in a Tesla is about as plush as a cardboard box as well in fairness! hehe
Difference being that I doubt MG 6 owners would endlessly drone on about how they are the best thing since sliced bread.
There are better sheds than this for 2 grand from more mainstream manufacturers which will be superior to it in just about every way but at the end of the day if all that you require from a car is to get from one place to another, which is the primary function of any car, it'll do.

Lester H

2,767 posts

106 months

Saturday 4th May
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Just re-read the whole thread. (Sad, isn’t it? Blame the cold drizzle outside.) Some contemporary handling comments were interesting. However, the pertinent theme is that it’s £2k for heaven’s sake! In the old dealer speak ‘ waddya want?”

kambites

67,644 posts

222 months

Saturday 4th May
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Gordon Hill said:
There are better sheds than this for 2 grand from more mainstream manufacturers which will be superior to it in just about every way...
Are there? If you want a reasonably brisk (say 150bhp) petrol, C-segment family car that isn't ancient or on stratospheric mileage, £2k really doesn't give you many options.

Gordon Hill

889 posts

16 months

Saturday 4th May
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kambites said:
Gordon Hill said:
There are better sheds than this for 2 grand from more mainstream manufacturers which will be superior to it in just about every way...
Are there? If you want a reasonably brisk (say 150bhp) petrol, C-segment family car that isn't ancient or on stratospheric mileage, £2k really doesn't give you many options.
You need to look harder then.

kambites

67,644 posts

222 months

Saturday 4th May
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Gordon Hill said:
You need to look harder then.
Not really because I'm not in the market for this sort of car at the moment. If you're convinced such things exist, at least a couple of examples might be useful to back up your point though!

Decky_Q

1,523 posts

178 months

Saturday 4th May
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I think this is a great find, exactly what you want in a shed, tried and tested basic tech, in a reliable spec, cheap because it's a model noone searches for, and a clean mot history.

Well done this week.

7 5 7

3,210 posts

112 months

Saturday 4th May
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kambites said:
Gordon Hill said:
You need to look harder then.
Not really because I'm not in the market for this sort of car at the moment. If you're convinced such things exist, at least a couple of examples might be useful to back up your point though!
This is a good example I think

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404248...


kambites

67,644 posts

222 months

Saturday 4th May
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7 5 7 said:
That does look decent value. I must admit I was looking specifically at C-segment cars. Personally I'd never consider anything as huge as an Insignia for a family car.

It's funny, but all the even vaguely comparable cars I found seem to be Vauxhalls.

MightyBadger

2,163 posts

51 months

Saturday 4th May
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kambites said:
Are there? If you want a reasonably brisk (say 150bhp) petrol, C-segment family car that isn't ancient or on stratospheric mileage, £2k really doesn't give you many options.
Would rather this than the MG, 1.8 petrol manual like the featured car.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156054693529?itmmeta=01...

There seems to be a decent choice really for 2k on most platforms.....less though if you omit all the autos and diesels and bigger engined cars.

Edited by MightyBadger on Saturday 4th May 20:07

carguy143

53 posts

87 months

Saturday 4th May
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These were very good cars and along with the TF LE500, were used to keep the MG brand ticking over in the UK whilst SAIC tried coming up with new models. No mention of the limited top speed in this article, though. They were limited to 112mph to keep insurance costs down.

I very much view these as the last true MG, as they had many components and design cues from the last of the MG Rover cars.

The MG6 would have done better in the UK if it was launched with a diesel engine in the lineup from the start as it came out in the middle of the CO2 based VED era where diesel was king.

I wouldn't fancy anything newer from the brand, though.

Gordon Hill

889 posts

16 months

Saturday 4th May
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kambites said:
Gordon Hill said:
You need to look harder then.
Not really because I'm not in the market for this sort of car at the moment. If you're convinced such things exist, at least a couple of examples might be useful to back up your point though!
I'm not trawling through AutoTrader, Gumtree or anywhere else to justify anything to you, plus I'm not looking for a car but as someone who sheds I'd not spend 2 grand on this, is that ok for you?
If you want an example I'll give you this, it's mine, it cost less than a grand and in 2 years of ownership it's been flawless.


MightyBadger

2,163 posts

51 months

Saturday 4th May
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Gordon Hill said:
I'm not trawling through AutoTrader, Gumtree or anywhere else to justify anything to you, plus I'm not looking for a car but as someone who sheds I'd not spend 2 grand on this, is that ok for you?
If you want an example I'll give you this, it's mine, it cost less than a grand and in 2 years of ownership it's been flawless.

I like that, always fancied a manual petrol version but never found one for sale.

My daily was also 2k, has been a great.

J4CKO

41,680 posts

201 months

Saturday 4th May
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Eazy71 said:
Loathsome.
Lol, its a fairly mundane car,

"Loathsome, ADJECTIVE
causing loathing; disgusting; abhorrent; detestable"

That's fairly dramatic emotion for something that is just a bit "meh", its a cheap car not Vladimir Putin.

I bet if it had a different badge on the reactions might be a little less negative, kind of looks like 4.5ths of an Insignia to me, dont even think its that horrendous to look at.

Gordon Hill

889 posts

16 months

Saturday 4th May
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MightyBadger said:
Gordon Hill said:
I'm not trawling through AutoTrader, Gumtree or anywhere else to justify anything to you, plus I'm not looking for a car but as someone who sheds I'd not spend 2 grand on this, is that ok for you?
If you want an example I'll give you this, it's mine, it cost less than a grand and in 2 years of ownership it's been flawless.

I like that, always fancied a manual petrol version but never found one for sale.

My daily was also 2k, has been a great.
Nice one, like that a lot. They are still out there for shed money, helps if you can spanner yourself. I'm having another if this expires, doesn't show any signs of it though.