FREELY. Live TV over broadband 2024

FREELY. Live TV over broadband 2024

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Ham_and_Jam

Original Poster:

2,258 posts

98 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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PF62 said:
Pointing a camera at a bucket of st and streaming that would replicate the BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 terrestial TV experience most evenings.
Not a fan?

PF62

3,703 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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Ham_and_Jam said:
PF62 said:
Pointing a camera at a bucket of st and streaming that would replicate the BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 terrestial TV experience most evenings.
Not a fan?
No, because the quality of broadcast TV has absolutely plummeted in the last few years.

The BBC most evenings is just scraping the barrel with some cheap reality show rubbish or soaps, and even BBC 4 which used to be interesting is now just a repeats channel.

ITV has always been fairly lowbrow but it used to have some decent drama series - but those are incredibly rare now.

C4 seems to aiming more for the 'shock show' than anything sensible, and the only decent shows it has it doesn't actually broadcast but are in the 'Walter Presents' strand on their catch up service.

C5 is mostly fluff but does actually seem to try to show something decent occasionally.

I would far sooner construct my own schedule of things worth watching than the dross BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 broadcast.





snuffy

9,859 posts

285 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Supersam83 said:
Just a quick question: If it's IPTV then with the delays etc it can't really be classed as live TV therefore the BBC licence fee would not apply?
How much delay are you thinking would be required for it not to be classed as a live transmission?

lrdisco

1,454 posts

88 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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PF62 said:
Pointing a camera at a bucket of st and streaming that would replicate the BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 terrestial TV experience most evenings.
Why put such immature childish comments out there?
It says so much about you as a person.

x5tuu

11,963 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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the-norseman said:
Most of these channels you can watch live via apps anyway now.
And that’s the problem - several apps and no unification

ajprice

27,651 posts

197 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Hopefully all channels would be some form of HD, and not what looks like sub SD potato vision you get with some channels like ITV4, Dave, Legend etc.

James6112

4,473 posts

29 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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About time!
Only use Freeview & some apps here, canned Sky etc a couple of years ago.
I was going to add a TV in a back room, but a pita to get an aerial to it. This should be the answer.

Digger

14,713 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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lrdisco said:
PF62 said:
Pointing a camera at a bucket of st and streaming that would replicate the BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 terrestial TV experience most evenings.
Why put such immature childish comments out there?
It says so much about you as a person.
Behind the comment a valid point is being made . . .

I assume you can see that. smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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We bought our house 3 years ago and at the time I didn't realise it didn't have a TV aerial. The house had been completed renovated so the last thing I wanted to do was rip the house a part to run an aerial cable from the room to the front room.

So for the last 3 years all TV I have watched has been through streaming apps, the one benefit of this is I watch a lot less television now.

I am looking forward to this, but whenever I am visiting someone who has Sky or Freeview I think "Still nothing worth watching"

But I will be getting this as soon as it is released.

White-Noise

4,323 posts

249 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Bump time.

I saw this mentioned on bbc today has anyone used it? I had a quick scan on the website I got the impression you need a new telly for it!? I also couldn't see a phone app for it.

Digger

14,713 posts

192 months

Tuesday 30th April
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https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/2024/freely-launch...

Looks initially like a trip to Argos for a HiSense TV then more TV manufacturers to come on board later this year I imagine . . .

ajprice

27,651 posts

197 months

Tuesday 30th April
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ajprice said:
Hopefully all channels would be some form of HD, and not what looks like sub SD potato vision you get with some channels like ITV4, Dave, Legend etc.
I only found out lastnight that ITV X through the Fire TV live TV section shows the channels in HD, instead of watching on potatovision Freeview channels, so I happily watched the MotoGP highlights lastnight and it wasn't coloured blobs hehe .

tribalsurfer

1,142 posts

120 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Digger said:
https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/2024/freely-launch...

Looks initially like a trip to Argos for a HiSense TV then more TV manufacturers to come on board later this year I imagine . . .
Bit crap it's not just an app. Almost all modern smart tv's have android/fire tv built in. All have controllers that would work, so why do it through dedicated tv's ?

Digger

14,713 posts

192 months

Tuesday 30th April
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I think it will just be an App?

No doubt will require people to upgrade TV's (manufacturers profit) to newer models that are "supported".

Mr Pointy

11,293 posts

160 months

Tuesday 30th April
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There will be several issues when Freely does come on line. You'll have to sign up & log in; the main reason for building the platform is to gather subscriber data for the advertisers - ITV & C4 already do this. There will be no recording feature so programme retention is at the whim of the broadcasters but the main issue will be no fast forwarding through the adverts - a casualty of the no recording function.

Be careful what you wish for.

Ham_and_Jam

Original Poster:

2,258 posts

98 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Digger said:
I think it will just be an App?

No doubt will require people to upgrade TV's (manufacturers profit) to newer models that are "supported".
It will be. They have just done a deal with HiSense for a bit of exclusivity at the launch.

Ham_and_Jam

Original Poster:

2,258 posts

98 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Mr Pointy said:
There will be several issues when Freely does come on line. You'll have to sign up & log in; the main reason for building the platform is to gather subscriber data for the advertisers - ITV & C4 already do this. There will be no recording feature so programme retention is at the whim of the broadcasters but the main issue will be no fast forwarding through the adverts - a casualty of the no recording function.

Be careful what you wish for.
Fast forward is a feature they are looking at in for the future apparently.

Logging in doesn’t bother me, all online stuff requires this. If its that much of an issue, just create a dedicated user / email for it.

Mr Pointy

11,293 posts

160 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Ham_and_Jam said:
Mr Pointy said:
There will be several issues when Freely does come on line. You'll have to sign up & log in; the main reason for building the platform is to gather subscriber data for the advertisers - ITV & C4 already do this. There will be no recording feature so programme retention is at the whim of the broadcasters but the main issue will be no fast forwarding through the adverts - a casualty of the no recording function.

Be careful what you wish for.
Fast forward is a feature they are looking at in for the future apparently.

Logging in doesn’t bother me, all online stuff requires this. If its that much of an issue, just create a dedicated user / email for it.
I agree about the logging in but the key for me will be how responsive the player is when shuttling & searching. I record anything I watch that has adverts & have FF them with a six button presses.

It will be interesting to see if they turn off the terrestrial transmitters - I belive the TV frequencies were not given up recently.

Ham_and_Jam

Original Poster:

2,258 posts

98 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Mr Pointy said:
I agree about the logging in but the key for me will be how responsive the player is when shuttling & searching. I record anything I watch that has adverts & have FF them with a six button presses.

It will be interesting to see if they turn off the terrestrial transmitters - I belive the TV frequencies were not given up recently.
Terrestrial is here for quite some time yet, but will become obsolete at some point.

I’m with you on the record everything though, simply for avoiding adverts with the FF. I use the Manhattan PVR, great bit of kit. They were touting Freely with the launch of their new PVR - T4R, but see it’s gone from their site now. Presumably because HiSense paid a load of wonga to Freely to get exclusivity.

dickymint

24,454 posts

259 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Considering you still have to pay for broadband to stream I don't see the point. For 45 quid/month with EE you can get broadband plus TV with a Youview Pro box (records up to 600 hours) that you can stream or use an aerial with. 2 extra boxes for free multiroom. Everything on the same EPG so no apps required unless you want to use them. 4K UHD with Atmos is an extra 6 quid if you want it. Seems a no brainer for me.

Long story short: I'm with BT at the moment and have been in dispute with them for about 2 months as there was some glitch (due to their changeover from BT TV to EE TV that wouldn't allow them to give me "Big Sport" which is all TNT sports plus all Sky sports channels so I wouldn't have to use the poxy Now TV app. They finally managed to sort it but they also agreed I could terminate my BT contract (not up until the end of October) without penalty.

Today I had to ring them as last week for some reason I couldn't get any of the Sky sports channels in HD or their Main Event channel in UHD banghead
So I double checked they would honor their word and let me cancel - yep all sorted so within 2 weeks I'll be getting all new equipment (as a new customer would including the multi room boxes) My bill will be dropped from an eye watering £133/month to £80/month which is nice party

edit: the early contract exit would have been £400 quid yikes

Edited by dickymint on Tuesday 30th April 18:06